Rochester Town Hall
Ruth Molloy on Genetically Engineered Foods
NYSAGE


 Town Of Rochester
 Environmental Commission Conversation Corner
 
 Our guest is: Ruth Molloy of NYSAGE (N.Y. State Against Genetic Engineering)
 
 Topic: Genetically engineered foods, lobbying on June 15, 2005 for mandatory labeling of GE foods intended for sale to the general public
 
 Q. Who are you and where do you live and work?
 
 A. I am a resident of New Paltz and have lived in Ulster County since 1975.
 I work as the grocery buyer at the High Falls Food coop and I consider
 myself a veteran of the health food industry with approximately 20 years
 experience. That has given me a broad perspective on marketability of
 natural and organic foods during the last few decades. Especially since the
 USDA organized it¹s organic standards around 1997. I live and breath the
 subject of food and food health.
 
 Q. What is the name of your organization and what does it stand for?
 
 A. We are called NYSAGE which stands for New York State Against Genetic
 Engineering. Our immediate objectives are consumer education, corporate
 liability and with the current petition campaign and lobby day we wish to
 affect legislation surrounding mandatory labeling for seeds and food
 products that have been genetically engineered.
 
 Q. How was NYSAGE started and who is in it?
 
 A.  NYSAGE has its real beginnings with a squad coming out of the Park Slope
 Food coop in Brooklyn headed by Paul Bermanzahn who is an activist in
 regular politics and in  food politics.
 
 Q. What are food politics?
 
 A.  Food politics are, for example, when the USDA in the 1990s was trying to put together the organic natural standards it initially came up with three standards among others which were unacceptable to the population at large. They were; organic foods could contain sewage sludge, irradiation and could be G-E (genetically engineered). Around that time there was a lot of
 jockeying going on where large food distributors were gobbling up the
 smaller organic companies who could no longer compete with them and this
 created a advantageous lobbying strength for the large corporations. If
 there hadn¹t been the already established consumer organizations such as
 Mothers For Natural Law and the regional organic certification programs such  as NOFA (North East Organic Farm Association) then the political strength of  the corporations would have prevailed. It was a truly unified and successful consumer effort.
 
 Q. Why is this so important to you in particular and why is it so important
 for people to get involved?
 
 A. The G-E (genetically engineered) piece of it is not just isolated to
 organic foods though it is threatening organic standards world wide.
 Monocultures (powerful groups such as corporations and the political
 structures that support them) in Agriculture are destroying cultural life
 style and expression, threatening livelihoods, economic well-being and on a
 national level it is creating an economic burden that we will all feel
 eventually through the inability to trade those commonly traded crops such
 as corn, soy, cotton and canola because the larger companies will own the
 rights to all of them.
 
 Q.  For the average person to understand; what are genetically modified
 organisms (GMO) and why are they potentially harmful?
 
 A. GMOs are the actual altering of a living organism on the level of its
 DNA. For example, companies who experiment with G-E are putting Arctic
 Flounder genes into a tomato to make it more cold resistant. It raises
 questions on ethical and safety levels...might we have a toxic reaction to
 this sort of splice? What might it do to the natural genetic health of the
 flounders and the tomatoes? how would this effect the entire food chain¹s
 health? I raise the ethical part not from morals but from a person¹s freedom to choose to for example not to eat meat and then when they ingest a tomato that has fish genes in it where does that leave them? Also, there hasn¹t  been enough testing..real scientific testing. Most of the testing is done by the corporations themselves and then being ³reported² to the FDA from what I  have read, particularly by Jeffrey Smith in Seeds Of Deception. How might those ³results² affect us?
 
 Q. Who is doing this genetic engineering of foods and food sources such as
 seeds?
 
 A. The biggest player is a company called Monsanto. Many of the original
 biotech interests have been bought up by them. Monsanto produces everything
 from RoundUp ( a weed killing herbicide) to the purchase of the majority of
 seed companies in the US and elsewhere so that they literally have a
 monopoly on the very source of our foods.
 
 Q. Where are GMOs found in the foods we buy, what are some products?
 
 A. Soy, cotton and canola and corn. Anything that has these ingredients are
 at risk. When you read the label of your foods, especially and mostly those
 that are not certified organic, look for these ingredients; soy flour, soy
 oil, soy lecithin, corn flour, corn starch, corn oil, corn syrup, canola oil
 and cottonseed oil. you find these ingredients a constant in most processed
 food.
 
 Q. Why is labeling so very important?
 
 A. Well just as the consumer has the right to know fats, calories, vitamins,
 minerals and cholesterol and we¹re allowed to know the actual ingredients of
 a product, we are also entitled to know where  genetic modification has
 taken place and what foods contain ingredients that have been modified. The
 documentary, The Future of Food showed me how astonished people are when
 they find out what is really going on. People are coming forward on this
 issue who may have simply said,² Oh yeah..I heard about that.² Now they
 say,² I knew it was going on but I didn¹t know the extent of it².
 
 Q. Where can we purchase food that is safe or even relatively free of GMO
 ingredients?
 
 A. There are a number of ways to do that. Know you grower..are they
 certified organic or low spray or no spray or conventional growers? It¹s
 really only within the developing trust between our grocers and farmers and
 we, the consumers that we can be assured of our food safety. Most seasonal
 and local grown food is not being tampered with right now. Certified organic
 food remains the safest, to date.
 
 Q. How would we know if the seeds we buy for our gardens are GMO safe?
 
 A. Unless it says organic then there is NO legislation nationally or
 statewide that addresses seed labeling. There is one exception to this. VT
 has a labeling law for seed. Hopefully after June 15th, we will, too.
 
 Q. June 15th, 2005 is a lobby day in Albany. What is lobby day about and why
 is it important to lobby?
 
 A. The bio tech industry is very aware of consumer  inspired efforts to
 address the labeling situation and initiate legislation in many areas of
 food safety. They have become particularly aware of the efforts of NYSAGE
 and we are expecting a very strong showing on the part of the industry to
 lobby their interests in the market place. It is not in their interest to
 require labeling because it will most certainly affect what people choose to
 purchase. For NY consumers to counteract the bio tech strength can only be
 done with a strong voice and considerable numbers on June 15th. Our
 legislators are people like us who we have elected to work for us..they are
 actually members of the working class, too. The job that they have before
 them must be influenced by their constituents. If that influence is not
 present, then they must assume that there is no interest and we loose the
 opportunity to influence our own future. It¹s important for each an every
 state, but specifically NY, to use its own sovereignty while the political
 environment allows it to. High School students have to learn about civics
 and government. Most are unaware of each states¹ constitution. The intention
 of the government is to protect this sovereignty as conscripted into the
 Constitution of the United States. We the constituents, the voters, ARE the
 government and we cannot leave it in the hands of our elected officials
 without input from us.
 
 Q. What are the bills supporting mandatory labeling and who is sponsoring
 them?
 
 A. Bill-A03165 DiNapoli   Bill-S01637 LaValle   Bill-A01969  Ortese
 
 Q. If I can¹t get to lobby day, what can I do?
 
 A. Writing, calling e-mailing your reps. You can find your reps. by going to
 http://assembly.state.NY.us/    or  call   518-455-4218.
 
 FOR THE SENATE   http;//www.senate.state.ny.us
 
 Even if you miss lobby day, keep the pressure on them.
 
 Q. In order to really have an impact as a private citizen, how often should
 I write or call my representatives?
 
 A. A very good example is a petition campaign. The numbers of citizens who
 show interest make an impact  but I think that if we all contacted them
 monthly it would really make a difference. The reps get information on bills
 at certain times and a month gives them time to have gotten and read the
 bills.
 
 Q. Is there any ways in which we can support our local farmers to plant and
 grow with GMOs in mind? What impact would it have on them to choose non-GMO
 farming? Is it even possible with wind and bird transfer of seeds?
 
 A. Cross pollination is a severe issue. (GMO seeds are carried to other land
 areas via wind and animal excretion where they make contaminate pure crops)
 I wish I could say something to really put us at ease. Its a big
 consideration especially as to the effect on our organic crops. We have to
 be willing to educate farmers..invite them to events and to participate in
 activities such as a viewing of films like the Future Of Food or give them
 books such as the Seeds of Deception. It could help to ask for organic
 crops..the more you ask the more you will find it. There are farmers in New
 Paltz who are not organically certified but who are never the less enjoying
 successful relationships with consumers who know their farming practices and
 who are their neighbors. For most of us, the bottom line is to have a
 successful business. Support the farms who use good practices and give your
 support to those who show interest in making healthy changes.
 
 Q. How might I join NYSAGE or some other group who is taking action to
 protect our food sources?
 
 A. Joining NYSAGE is a simple thing...come to an event, contact someone and
 get involved! Call...518-234-1942 and speak to Louise Johnson or log on to
 NYSAGE@yahoogroups.com  You can obtain more information on a national level
 at www.sosfood.org  There is also www.thecampaign.org  and
 www.organicconsumers.org
 
 Ask your favorite grocer where they get their food and are they aware of
 GMOs. State that you won¹t purchase them or that you would be willing to
 purchase certified organic foods if they would carry them. Again, what we
 will buy, they will supply. Conscientious producers are labeling the food
 products as non-GMO look for these labels. Needless to say buying organic is
 the most direct statement you can make.
 
 Q. Do you think it really matters that we get involved? Does my voice and
 opinion really count?
 
 A. Yes! If we don't start vocalizing we are in big trouble. The silence has
 been deafening for far too long. So many of us have in our personal lives,
 long term relationships that suddenly go awry because we expect our partners
 to read our minds and they can¹t. We have to create the environment for a
 healthy partnership with our food producers and our elected officials. The
 firmest foundation for that is on a local and a statewide level. Your voice
 and opinion really counts as long as the person standing next to you and the
 person next to them recognizes the value of their own voice. It¹¹s matter of
 unity.
 
 Q. Why are you so passionate about this topic?
 
 A. Well!  I think of Dr. Arpad Pusztai, employed to the Rowett Institute in
 Scotland who devoted his entire life to the field of genetic modification.
 He ended up blowing the whistle based on the results of the research he was
 doing by speaking out. In this manner his  reputation and his life's work
 were destroyed in the scientific community. I feel that a person like
 myself, who has devoted my life to healthy food could end up in a similar
 position if something isn¹t done soon. It really sticks in my throat that I
 can no longer say if you buy organic you ARE safe but rather now I have to
 say you ³should² be safe. From a personal perspective, to be so involved in
 a consumer niche of organic foods, GMOs would effect so many people. I don¹t
 know where we would go if we lost control over the basic integrity of our
 food.


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